Discussion:
Welding Masks?
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Brian Reay
2017-09-03 09:48:32 UTC
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As per my other post, I'm considering buying a small Mig Welder.

I will, obviously, need a welding mask and I've been looking at the
'automatic' ones.

Some seem very cheap. Are they any good?

I've done some arc welding (very little) and find the 'old fashion'
always dark masks a pain, so really fancy an automatic one.

I confess to being intrigued that some are 'solar powered', given they
are, presumably, mostly used indoors. Do they perhaps use the energy
from the arc?
e***@whidbey.com
2017-09-03 15:55:21 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
As per my other post, I'm considering buying a small Mig Welder.
I will, obviously, need a welding mask and I've been looking at the
'automatic' ones.
Some seem very cheap. Are they any good?
I've done some arc welding (very little) and find the 'old fashion'
always dark masks a pain, so really fancy an automatic one.
I confess to being intrigued that some are 'solar powered', given they
are, presumably, mostly used indoors. Do they perhaps use the energy
from the arc?
Over here in the USA we have the ubiquitous Harbor Freight stores that
sell mostly Chinese stuff. They sell three auto dark welding hoods.
One, that has blue flames on the side, is the easiest for me to see
through. I'm sure there exists on your side of the world the same
hood. I use mine for loaning out and for when someone wants to watch
me weld. I use a much better personal hood but I can weld fine with
the cheap Chinese hood too, it just takes more effort to see. The
cheap solar powered hoods have a couple lithium coin cells inside that
get recharged by the solar cell in the hood. Eventually these
batteries fail. Then, if you are careful, you can crack the lens case
to get at the batteries and replace them. I did this on one hood by
adding battery holders because the original batteries were spot welded
in and I don't have a battery spot welder. Youtube has plans for easy,
quick and dirty battery tab spot welders so if I ever do this again
I'll try fabbing one up.
Eric
Peter Fairbrother
2017-09-04 00:40:00 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
As per my other post, I'm considering buying a small Mig Welder.
I will, obviously, need a welding mask and I've been looking at the
'automatic' ones.
Some seem very cheap. Are they any good?
I've done some arc welding (very little) and find the 'old fashion'
always dark masks a pain, so really fancy an automatic one.
I confess to being intrigued that some are 'solar powered', given they
are, presumably, mostly used indoors. Do they perhaps use the energy
from the arc?
Cheap autodarkening masks are about as good, in terms of eye protection,
as the expensive ones. The main difference is they the more expensive
ones can (sometimes) have a larger viewing area, can be a little clearer
when off, and the masks can be more comfortable.

But both work equally well, and in general for occasional use I have no
compunction about recommending the cheap ones (though maybe avoid the
very cheapest), they are perfectly adequate.



-- Peter Fairbrother
Brian Reay
2017-09-08 12:22:22 UTC
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Post by Peter Fairbrother
Post by Brian Reay
As per my other post, I'm considering buying a small Mig Welder.
I will, obviously, need a welding mask and I've been looking at the
'automatic' ones.
Some seem very cheap. Are they any good?
I've done some arc welding (very little) and find the 'old fashion'
always dark masks a pain, so really fancy an automatic one.
I confess to being intrigued that some are 'solar powered', given they
are, presumably, mostly used indoors. Do they perhaps use the energy
from the arc?
Cheap autodarkening masks are about as good, in terms of eye protection,
as the expensive ones. The main difference is they the more expensive
ones can (sometimes) have a larger viewing area, can be a little clearer
when off, and the masks can be more comfortable.
But both work equally well, and in general for occasional use I have no
compunction about recommending the cheap ones (though maybe avoid the
very cheapest), they are perfectly adequate.
Thank you, that is encouraging- I was concerned the cheap ones may not
give adequate protection. I recall, many years ago, my father having
some eye problems (temporary) when somehow he'd been exposed to an arc
without an eye shield. I wasn't keen to repeat it.
Bob Minchin
2017-09-12 16:25:15 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
Post by Peter Fairbrother
Post by Brian Reay
As per my other post, I'm considering buying a small Mig Welder.
I will, obviously, need a welding mask and I've been looking at the
'automatic' ones.
Some seem very cheap. Are they any good?
I've done some arc welding (very little) and find the 'old fashion'
always dark masks a pain, so really fancy an automatic one.
I confess to being intrigued that some are 'solar powered', given
they are, presumably, mostly used indoors. Do they perhaps use the
energy from the arc?
Cheap autodarkening masks are about as good, in terms of eye
protection, as the expensive ones. The main difference is they the
more expensive ones can (sometimes) have a larger viewing area, can be
a little clearer when off, and the masks can be more comfortable.
But both work equally well, and in general for occasional use I have
no compunction about recommending the cheap ones (though maybe avoid
the very cheapest), they are perfectly adequate.
Thank you, that is encouraging- I was concerned the cheap ones may not
give adequate protection. I recall, many years ago, my father having
some eye problems (temporary) when somehow he'd been exposed to an arc
without an eye shield. I wasn't keen to repeat it.
They often come with flat batteries from being in the box for months.
Just put it in front of a halogen work light for a few mins and it is
ready to go. you can look at the filament of a 500watt one and make out
the coils of the filament as a good confidence test.
After initial charge they seem fine and run off the arc power.

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